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  • Politics and persuasion, reason and religion, science and success, appearance and reality, belief and knowledge, ethics and egoism. Reason and Persuasion provides a new look at old issues through the lens of three classic dialogues by Plato: Euthyphro, Meno and Republic, Book I. These dialogues appear here in fresh translations, by Belle Waring, with general introduction, commentary chapters and illustrations by John Holbo. The text is lively, accessible, and intended for use as an introduction to philosophy, but is substantive enough to be of interest to the more advanced students as well.

    Reason and Persuasion asks the question philosophers and non- philosophers have been asking each other, and themselves, from the start: why should I listen to you?

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  • John Holbo is an assistant professor of philosophy at the National University of Singapore. He is married to Belle Waring, the translator, who got at MA in classics at the University of California, Berkeley. John's CV is here. Belle spends much of her time these days refurbishing vintage furniture. (Here are the pictures to prove it.) We blog at John & Belle Have A Blog. Also at Crooked Timber. John also blogs at the Valve. (Are you starting to see a pattern?) John is also publishing his webcomic, Squid & Owl, as a Flickr set. Updates daily.

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  • John Holbo is your webmaster and host. But I'm married to Belle so I can pass along questions and comments about the translations efficiently. We call it 'spousecasting'.

    I'm planning to maintain this blog as a permanent supplement/appendix to the book. It will contain updates, corrections, free teaching materials, links, that sort of thing. We're hoping to collect informal reviews and commentary on the text by others - by you, maybe. The formal sort are welcome, too, of course. One problem with introductions is that they are, well, too ... introductory in a lot of ways. They ignore stuff, proceed as if things are simple. That's their job. But I'm thinking it might be nice to collect a bunch of 'here's what Holbo leaves out of chapter 4' type pieces. It would be nice for me to be able to point students to that sort of thing.

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It's about time for an update ...

I turned in the final final final final updates for the book yesterday. That's a load off. In the end it was a lot better for all the help in comments and emails from lots of folks. So, if that was you: thanks!

Why no site updates? I guess I got engrossed in thing itself. Once you've caught upwards of 300 typos and several more serious problems in a thing, that old thing - the draft - starts to look a little flea-bitten. A certain relentless negativism of approach can set in - but in a good way. And part of you just wants people to come back with the shiny brand new final thing is ready. Which will be by early August!

Thanks for all the help with the ms. everyone. It really did make a difference.

Gettingpastyes

on 07/01/2009 at 09:55 PM in book news |

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I guess I got engrossed in thing itself.

"I was contemplating the Form of my book."

Posted by: Brock | 07/02/2009 at 03:51 AM

Exactly. The draft started to seem like a feeble emanation from this ideal realm of Bookness.

Posted by: jholbo | 07/02/2009 at 08:30 AM

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